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Berry wrote:I am Tom. I am Berry's husband writing this. I have something to say to the one who uses the name Groundhog. I am offended on behalf of my wife Berry. I am offended by your inappropriate and unkind accusations printed here on Dr. McDougall's board addressed to her and about her . Berry suggested to you a practical and commonsense solution that seemed obvious. .She thought you really wanted to know what the Mr. Novick thought because you kept talking about it. To be helpful She said if you really wanted to know what the Mr. Novick means & thinks or used to think and so on that you can contact Him instead of wondering about it over and over again on the board. I think Your response addressed to Berry was bizarre I think you said things inapporpriate and mean. None of us in our family will bel reading what you say anymore. I notice the things you write about often don't seem fitted to the prupose of this Doctors board anyway. Out of kindness and concern we do wish to leave for you one last suggestion. You say things like you are lost, confused. desperate.... Have you thoughtto secure for yourself some private counseling? To us it looks that You write here like you need attention very much, like to talk very very much & some of the time like you think you are victimized and behave paranoid, and write very defensive if someone offers a suggestion not to your liking. even while you seem to take the privilege and justifying of writing any thing at all that flows through your mind. Weve noticed that if someone doesnt answer something you write that you will answer your writings yourself. I read that most often of what you write has nothing to do with the Doctors program or is putting up questions or seeds of doubt about it. You talk abou many times so many many worries troubles problems and confusions that you talk about again and again. Maybe the scope of this Doctors board is not for helping all that. I would personally not continue go to a place established For something to find our reasons Against it if I sincerely wanted a resoution of my problems in that area. A live trained professional private counselor for you to talk to and for you to be able to get all his attention directed to you and all your problems concerns questions confusisons that you frequently mention could maybe help you sort through? And to consult a real live trustworthy Doctor about maybe to find an exact reason fro some of your medical problems? Berry and I hope you do find whatever the the help is you need to resolve your many many questions & problems and to get well . Tom
sojourner wrote:groundhogg wrote:
Could it be possible (again...I'm NOT siding with ANYONE at this point) that both Atkins extremists AND doctors like McDougall/Ornish see results because they frown on flour/ baked stuff???? Could that be one uniting factor present in both that's important enough to health that cuases the confusion of people in both extremes getting better?????? ....
Hi groundhog,
I saw at another place on the board what you said about Dr. McDougall frowning on flour and baked stuff.
http://www.drmcdougall.com/forums/viewt ... highlight= . I didn't want my question to you to get lost in that long list of posts so I moved my question to a new post for you here.
Will you please cite references to where Dr. McDougall "frowns on flour/baked stuff"? I want to read about that and find out why Dr. McDougall frowns on flour and baked stuff. I didn't know that about his program. What you said is disturbing and confusing to read and I want to understand why he has changed this major part of his program.
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