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Chimichanga wrote:If I'm not mistaken McDougall program says to eat as much as you want , whenever you want till you are reasonably full.
JeffN wrote:I see this so often in patients.
They follow one diet for a while and lose some weight and then plateau and get frustrated. So, as a result, they start following a new diet that has a different set of rules, often related to meal frequency (or some other related or similar rules) and they suddenly start doing better and so think it is due to the change in meal frequency (or other rules). However, the real change that happened, which they often do not see, is that by following these new rules, they reduced their overall caloric intake.
Chimichanga wrote: There is a lot of truth in above. You take up new things in life with vigor and it could be vigor/attention to details, meticulousness that may be responsible for the outcome than the new program itself. I buy this. .
Chimichanga wrote: Here is personal anecdote, whatever it is worth. At 5'10" I had been eating low fat whole foods diet weighing 165 lbs went up to 173 lbs. For most people, at this height weighing 170 lbs is nothing but outstanding. Month and half ago I started practicing true hunger and 3 meals and I'm down 10 lbs. If you are 30-80 lbs overweight, losing 10 lbs is no big deal, at my weight, it is a big deal. I believe I still have not settled at my leanest weight, I'm still losing and will let you know how I do in few months and this is after adding an ounce of nuts and seeds !!
JeffN wrote: Questions...
1) did you change what you eat, or just how much and how often
JeffN wrote:2) isn't a set definition of meals a contradiction to the concept of true hunger?
Chimichanga wrote:Yes I did change what I eat although not a whole lot. Yes I cut out on snacks..
Chimichanga wrote:Instead of focusing more on grains and potatoes and corn... my focus is on green vegetables, beans, lentils.
Chimichanga wrote:Yes of course, it had to be that I'm eating less calories otherwise it would be vudoo magic but more important question is how? why? Why couldn't I eat less calories even when I had been eating way way better than SAD?
Chimichanga wrote: eating the gold standard diet?
Chimichanga wrote: P.S. I'm not truly following the true hunger. I followed it for first few weeks. Now I always have in back of mind that I need not feel stuffed up, so I'm not truly waiting till I feel truly hungry but I'm aware that it is really easy to over eat!! yes including low fat plant based food.
JeffN wrote:Chimichanga wrote: eating the gold standard diet?
Everyone "thinks" they are eating the gold standard but in reality, there is no one such thing. Jeff
Chimichanga wrote: I'm pretty confident as to what I had been doing.
Chimichanga wrote: We have to accept this, many times in life it so happens that the concept, idea is very tiny, looks quite simple afterwords but can have the huge impact. I have learnt this lesson myself.
JeffN wrote:
I am not sure what you are referring to here.
In Health
Jeff
Chimichanga wrote:What I'm saying is, concept of true hunger, nutrient density, anabolic/catabolic state of digestion is unique.
Chimichanga wrote:You can't just do the CR I'm able to do now, otherwise I would have done it earlier.
Chimichanga wrote:Again I have not lived with this for long, there is still that possibility that I will go back to where I began and if that happens then I know there is nothing unique but that "newness" charm.
JeffN wrote:
Yesterday, I got an email from one who I first met 1.5 years ago and just hit the 175 lb mark without following any of the above things you mention.
Chimichanga wrote:As I said previously, I hit 165/170 lbs mark
Chimichanga wrote:Following you can eat all you want as long you choose wide assortment of plant foods.
Chimichanga wrote: Isn't he also very big on no snacks between the meals? Go in a catabolic before eating a meal? that means you have to be little bit hungry to eat? I followed this faithfully for about 2 months, after that It became difficult to not eat anything between the meals, watch for true hunger.
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