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Chumly wrote:I attended one of his week-long getaways a couple of years ago. He can be very blunt. I don't think he's purposefully being mean, it's just the way he delivers his point.
Michael
Lani Muelrath wrote:Chumly wrote:I attended one of his week-long getaways a couple of years ago. He can be very blunt. I don't think he's purposefully being mean, it's just the way he delivers his point.
Michael
You make a good point Michael, as different approaches create positive impact and outcome for different people. As a coach, I think about this a lot in terms of finding the best avenue for change when helping people through this metamorphosis. It's come up before at the ASW - even Dr. Diehl and Dr. McDougall spoke to it at the Sept. 2010 event. Dr. Diehl clearly said to encourage, cajole, invite, and Dr. McDougall said "I just get in their face". Between these 2, Dr. McDougall is the clear hard-driver and we all can agree that is one of the qualities that we appreciate about his work.
Dr. Fuhrman's personality and demeanor can seem more stringent as well. I spoke to Scott after the commentary by Dr. Fuhrman. In his question, Scott was speaking to the challenges of a busy schedule and convenience of addressing proper diet, and that though he'd lost 100 lbs, he still is being challenged at getting it all to work and Dr. Fuhrman said, if memory serves correct, "Yes, I can see you are having a problem with that". In speaking with Scott I asked him about how that was for him, and how our hearts went out to him at that moment, he said that he sees "Dr. Fuhrman. as the diet nazi and Dr. McDougall as the diet father".
There's room for both manners of delivery as some people do respond well to military approach and others to the fatherly. Actually, I am very curious as to how research would play out the success rate of these avenues of delivery. I don't know how you'd ever test it, as you'd also need to address personality profiles and all kind of other variables.
Readers, what do you think? Which approach works best with you, and look beyond the immediate moment to long term - nazi or father?
Lani
chewy wrote:did dr mcdougall say that ANY ground flaxseed was necessary to add to his diet at all or absolutely no need-just plenty of starches with the addition of fruit and vegetables?
Gramma Jackie wrote:Lani Muelrath wrote:Chumly wrote:I attended one of his week-long getaways a couple of years ago. He can be very blunt. I don't think he's purposefully being mean, it's just the way he delivers his point.
Michael
You make a good point Michael, as different approaches create positive impact and outcome for different people. As a coach, I think about this a lot in terms of finding the best avenue for change when helping people through this metamorphosis. It's come up before at the ASW - even Dr. Diehl and Dr. McDougall spoke to it at the Sept. 2010 event. Dr. Diehl clearly said to encourage, cajole, invite, and Dr. McDougall said "I just get in their face". Between these 2, Dr. McDougall is the clear hard-driver and we all can agree that is one of the qualities that we appreciate about his work.
Dr. Fuhrman's personality and demeanor can seem more stringent as well. I spoke to Scott after the commentary by Dr. Fuhrman. In his question, Scott was speaking to the challenges of a busy schedule and convenience of addressing proper diet, and that though he'd lost 100 lbs, he still is being challenged at getting it all to work and Dr. Fuhrman said, if memory serves correct, "Yes, I can see you are having a problem with that". In speaking with Scott I asked him about how that was for him, and how our hearts went out to him at that moment, he said that he sees "Dr. Fuhrman. as the diet nazi and Dr. McDougall as the diet father".
There's room for both manners of delivery as some people do respond well to military approach and others to the fatherly. Actually, I am very curious as to how research would play out the success rate of these avenues of delivery. I don't know how you'd ever test it, as you'd also need to address personality profiles and all kind of other variables.
Readers, what do you think? Which approach works best with you, and look beyond the immediate moment to long term - nazi or father?
Lani
Lani,
I am a firm believer that "there is a time and a place for everything." I don't think that a public forum, be it a message board or a conference room filled with people is the place to publicly say things that would embarrass or intimidate anyone. I think a better way to go for that type of frank talk is to ask for the person to meet with him after the talk. Or in the case of a message board send a PM. My father-in-law was a Southern preacher. He could preach some "fire and brimstone" sermons, but he was patient, loving and kind when he talked to people individually. If he had used mockery to persuade people he would not have lasted 45 years in the ministry. I know Dr. McDougall can be blunt, but he seems to save his firepower for establishment medical community, drug companies, etc. rather than talking that way to people who are at least trying to eat healthy.
LauraA wrote: I just know that we want all who attend the weekends to feel welcome and accepted - even if they are overweight and have a question! Take care, LauraA
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