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Salley wrote:but it sure is a lot easier to say vegan and then go into the finer points... that's actually how I came to ever hear the term myself was in trying to order foods for myself people would respond with something along the lines of "oh, you're vegan, okay I get it now..."
Salley wrote:Norm wrote: I see being a vegan in my future, but I still wont describe my diet as vegan simply because it doesn't adequately describe my diet.
So if someone asks if you have any special dietary requests or needs you won't say vegan? I mean this all just seems so silly and overboard to me to go to such lengths not to use a term that is so helpful in getting us 95% of the way easily in so many social situations... sure, it's not completely adequate and in most cases more information will be needed, but it sure is a lot easier to say vegan and then go into the finer points... that's actually how I came to ever hear the term myself was in trying to order foods for myself people would respond with something along the lines of "oh, you're vegan, okay I get it now..." and after enough times hearing that or having it written down on my chart somewhere, I was more than happy to have discovered such a simple way to explain so much! (although I do admit it's frustrating that 'vegetarian' isn't enough since so many seem to think the term automatically includes ovo-lacto and sometimes even fish and fowl).
Norm wrote: Why would I add to that confusion by calling my diet a vegan diet and then trying to explain how it differs from a vegan diet?
Salley wrote:Norm wrote: Why would I add to that confusion by calling my diet a vegan diet and then trying to explain how it differs from a vegan diet?
Because it in no way differs from a vegan diet so no explanation there is necessary... your potatoes are a perfect example, I have many times needed to specify that those baked potatoes be *vegan* because for many people a plain baked potato still includes butter, for better or worse adding in 'vegan' gets taken much more seriously (not to say it's always a guarantee of course but it really ups the odds in our favor).
Good point about the honey... I know so many vegans that use honey it's not something I even think about, but there are also plenty that do not use honey and in order to be labelled vegan a food item can't include it.
Salley wrote:So if someone asks if you have any special dietary requests or needs you won't say vegan?
Salley wrote:but it sure is a lot easier to say vegan and then go into the finer points...
veggylvr wrote:To me, honey is just a bodily fluid released by the bee. So, not to be crude, but isn't it somewhat similar to semen?
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